• 艾美拉斯科夫斯基

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    艾米·拉斯科夫斯基是波士顿大学的资深作家。她总是在BU周围寻找有趣的、古怪的故事,并帮助管理和编辑BU Today实习生的工作。她在雪城大学(Syracuse University)完成本科学业,并于2015年在传播学院(College of Communication)获得新闻学硕士学位。配置文件

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  1. It’s unfortunate that we are falsely pushing the narrative that police are actively going out to shoot black people. 这是一个值得坚持的伟大故事,但在这个案例中没有体现出来。布朗先生的死是一个悲剧,我希望他的家人有一天能在这一切中找到平静。

    1. 阿瑟·麦克杜菲,罗德尼·金,艾布纳·路易玛,阿马杜·迪奥,特雷沃恩·马丁,迈克尔·布朗,埃里克·加纳。这张清单是根据我自己有缺陷的记忆整理的;many others can be added.

      All were or are Black men who ran afoul of the law, either dying or suffering severe injury at he hands of police who we/reare rarely held accountable.

      真希望我们从没听说过他们的名字。我希望他们保持匿名,除非他们被允许继续他们的生活并对社会做出积极贡献。再过几个星期,布朗就要去上大学了;他已经取得了相当大的成就。我们永远不会知道这些人有多大的潜力给人们的生活带来积极的影响。That’s a great tragedy that needs attention.

      我同意,这里的许多评论大多揭示了,如果不是简单的白人特权,那么就是一种持续的无能(失败?),无法同情我们社会中如此多奋斗者面临的挑战。

      我们就不能好好相处吗?

      1. 抱歉,有两处需要更正。First, one name should be spelled Amadou Diallo.

        其次,特雷沃恩·马丁被一名过分热心的社区巡警射杀。But for several weeks the Sanford FL showed no interest in investigating his death, until compelled to do so.

  2. If people actually read the case instead of watched the news they’d know that Brown’s arms were never raised in a don’t shoot way. 弹道报告清楚地表明穿透尸体的所有弹孔都呈向下的角度。This angle can only be made when the Brown is hunkered down and charging. It’s unfortunate that Brown died, but as above I don’t think he should be a certain point for protest. There is police brutality towards African Americans and unfair treatment. 只要看看这个案例,你就会发现他根本就不是天使

    1. 一个人需要成为一个绝对有道德的人来获得一个国家的同情吗?你似乎不明白的是,无论布朗是否指控,在这样的守夜活动中存在的敏感性并不仅仅是这一个案件。Tensions between Black people and law enforcement run deeply and far into our history.

      我们生活在一个极不平等的社会。Racial prejudices are rooted in our country’s very being. Those prejudices are internalized and come out in ugly encounters. Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and countless others are all examples.

      1. 好吧,那么黑人社区应该加入更多的警察队伍。有一股巨大的力量要求非裔美国人不要与警察交谈,因为他们会被视为“告密者”。

        1. If only it was that simple.

          警察队伍中缺少黑人是有很多原因的。Instead of going into all of the reasons, you might want to ask yourself why this is. If you resort to a racial stereotype to answer that question, you’re only going in circles.

          请阅读:http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-county-police-forces-often-don-t-reflect-communities/article_a29dc3e4-91bb-5cf5-9b30-9ebb95c5e1c6.html

      2. 想象一下,如果没有执法部门,底特律、芝加哥、费城等地的一些社区会是什么样子。

        黑人对黑人的犯罪会增加。

        你似乎不明白的是黑人之间会互相阻碍。声称如果你说得对,他们就表现得太白了,或者如果他们不以某种方式穿着,他们就不够黑。

        这个国家的问责制是可笑的。

        1. 啊,是的。Black on Black crime. The ever easy scapegoat for justifying violence against Black people. Because Black people do it to each other, it’s completely okay for White people to do it to Black people.

          你有没有想过白人对白人犯罪的想法有多荒谬?Why do you think we don’t ever frame violence within and among White communities as a cultural pathogen in the same way we characterize Black on Black crime?

        2. 你是谁,你对黑人了解多少。从什么时候起,白人成了黑人的救世主,使他们免于自相残杀。Like white people don’t shoot us schools movie theater etc.

  3. 不幸的是,我们选择破坏这个案件的真相,以及过去几个月里其他22名手无寸铁的黑人被枪杀的事实。Systematic racial injustices do exist, and it was clearly represented in this case. Thank you to the School of Theology and UMOJA for paying recognition!

      1. Anonymous,

        把争论的焦点放在手无寸铁的白人被黑人杀害这件事上,简直是目光短浅。Due to longstanding and institutionalized acts of violence and oppression of African-American’s by authority figures, and the disproportionate amount of death’s that result from encounters between black citizens and (mostly, not exclusively) white police officers, you can’t equate the two. To do so, and to ask why more attention isn’t paid to black on black crime for example, is to miss the entire point of these protests.

        1. 那就看看证据吧。Simply googling:

          bureau of justice statistics 1980-2008

          And looking at bjs.gov’s website and taking a look at figure 19. Why are we worrying about the other 7% of black deaths, when the other 93% is the problem.

      2. The point is NOT that it does not happen to white men. It’s that white men, when killed, receive JUSTICE more often than black men.

        Justice is what it’s about, people. Fair trial. Hell, even a CHANCE at trial. 每个人都说要读“事实”,但历史上系统性压迫黑人生活的事实呢?Have you ever picked up a book that outlines some of the oppression blacks have experienced and how it filters into today’s society? 你不能在一个你突然开始关注CNN或FOX的问题上声称自己是专家。

        很有趣的是,很多人有着如此强烈的观点,声称自己是事实,却不敢坚持自己的观点,甚至不敢署名。至少,走上街头表达意见的人们不会躲在电脑屏幕后面。他们为自己奋斗的目标感到自豪,因为他们知道这是真的。你真的相信你贴出来的东西吗,当你说这些偏执的,虚假的东西?可能不会。但我想无知是福,黑人“只是继续打种族牌”的错误叙述将继续帮助许多固执和盲目的人在晚上安然入睡。只要你喜欢就行,对吧?

    1. A criminal was shot and killed by police….black, white, purple doesn’t matter. Michael Brown was a criminal who assaulted an Asian man and what about the Asian Americans are they less worthy of our empathy than a criminal???

      Too often the media fuels this type of drama…the bottom line is a criminal was stopped, tragically, from harming others.

      Let you sleep peaceful tonight because good men and women are willing to do what is necessary to protect the public.

      1. 对不起,你的评论偏离了手边的事实。A human being was SHOT TO DEATH because he committed the crime of thievery. 你要有什么样的心理状态才能证明射杀手无寸铁的人是正当的。You may go to a prestigious university but your perception on the realities of the devaluement of Blacks in America is completely SKEWED. Hopefully the use of capital letters will help permeate the message of injustice through your ignorance and complete indifference towards the lives of African Americans. Until then spare me.

        1. I don’t get why everyone has to emphasize UNARMED. It doesn’t matter if he had a gun or just his bare hands. 如果他把警察扑倒在地,他可能会把他打死。He was far larger and stronger than the officer was. Officer Wilson was reasonable to fear for his life and he was justified in defending himself.

          The media always has to point out when someone is unarmed to make them sound innocent. 如果一名嫌疑人服用了PCP,并认为他们是不可战胜的,甚至在被枪击时都没有退缩,那么警察肯定会想要对他们使用致命武力来保护他们的生命和维护公共安全。根据报纸上的“事实”来判断一个场景要容易得多,而不是站在警察的立场上,面对一个想要伤害你的大块头、愤怒的男人向你冲来。

      2. 它不像迈克尔·布朗是到处袭击人。You know what else could have ended his supposed criminal streak? 逮捕和正当程序,你知道,宪法赋予他的东西。

        我是亚裔美国人。And I’m not speaking for all Asians here, but rather as a person whose racial consciousness is closely tied to my race. 我从不认为迈克尔·布朗对另一个碰巧是亚洲人的行为是出于种族动机。

        在这里,我们剖析了一个普遍的观点,即仅仅因为两个不同种族的人彼此暴力或仇恨,它就一定是种族的。That’s a very simplistic view of race relations, isn’t it?

        1. “你知道还有什么可以结束他所谓的犯罪倾向吗?”An arrest and due process – you know, the stuff that the Constitution gives him.”

          你的观点很好,克里斯蒂安,因为被枪杀绝对排除了…嗯,之后的任何事情,包括试图通过法律体系的可能性。

          但我认为,我们也应该小心,不要暗示“正当程序”与我们所生活的国家的种族主义历史是分开的。我们的司法系统没有一个部分是真空存在的。

          感谢你在BU的讨论中做出的持续而周到的贡献,无论是在BUToday的评论中,还是在更广泛的地方。

  4. 简单明了。Stop the protesting. Mr.Brown was nothing more than a thug and the color of his skin has nothing to do with it. 他选错了。他抢劫了一家商店,他选得很差。他决定和当地一名警察发生冲突,他选错了。Once liberals “get it” that he chose poorly you might learn that if you mess with the bull you get the horn. Plain and simple,do not choose poorly.

    1. 他没有选择死。无论他那天经历了什么,或者在他的一生中经历了什么,他都对一名武装警察进行了身体攻击。This happened in front of a backdrop of a long, complicated, violent, and racist historical context.

      他的肤色和他的死有关系吗?可能以你无法想象的方式。并不是达伦·威尔逊看到布朗就对自己说:“他是黑人,所以我必须杀了他。”In the heat of a physical struggle, in which Wilson may have actually feared for his own life, reached for his gun and fired. 恐惧是基于什么?在人际冲突的时刻,内化的文化观念会浮出水面,指导我们的澳门威尼斯人注册行动。

      但让我们谈谈布朗的肤色,以及它的重要性:你把他描述为“暴徒”。大胆地说出你真正的想法。称他为“n*gg*r”,因为你真正想说的“暴徒”是用代码把布朗描述成另一个悲惨的、无助的、暴力的黑人,他的种族本性无法克服。

      我想知道——如果部澳门威尼斯人注册被要求在评论布鲁里溃疡今天,你会随心所欲地使用“暴徒”这个词,讲实话,还是舒适的匿名不知怎么给你勇气吗?

      1. 他的恐惧是基于布朗打他的脸,然后冲他冲去。

        你是在说,陪审团看到并审查所有证据(其中大部分你无法接触到)的民主程序是错误的吗?请拿出证据来开导我。我是说,你似乎比陪审团知道得多。Enlighten us with your knowledge.

        是的,布朗的暴徒,我都会说你的脸和任何人的脸。还好我不是白人,否则我的角色会被像你这样的种族歧视者彻底诋毁。

        1. 在这一点上我同意杰夫的看法。看看你刚才说:“继续,说出心中的到底是什么。称他为“n * gg * r”,因为你真正的意思是“暴徒”布朗是使用代码来描述“这是一个稻草人如果我见过一个。布朗抢劫了一家便利店,并袭击了一名警察。他完全符合暴徒的特征,而你却坚持认为说这话的人一定是种族主义者。你不能选择把所有问题都归咎于种族。This isn’t the community having pent up frustration, and even if it was it doesn’t justify breaking the law. 威尔逊是出于自卫。无论白人、黑人、亚洲人还是其他什么人,威尔逊都有权利射杀他。

          1. Yet if a young white man were to act the same way, how easily would millions of people characterize him as a thug? Even in cases of massive violence like school shootings, most of the killers have incredibly complicated psychological profiles done on them – that somehow, it wasn’t their fault that they were hurting and tragic massacres could have been prevented if we *just cared enough*. 这种对黑人的无罪推定在哪里?我在这里没见过。

        2. 是的,因为你只用你的名字。Please, find me using the BU directory and let’s have a face-to-face conversation about this.

          The criminal justice system IS broken. 种族主义根深蒂固。It is run by and built by people – humans, whose unconscious biases guide their decision making.

          我真的不感兴趣的细节事件导致迈克尔·布朗的死亡。What I’m interested in is how BU staff and faculty, who are supposedly educated, understand this incident in the context of a historically racist society with real elements of it today, and then have the gumption to spew it anonymously.

          所以求你了,当面告诉我他是个暴徒。Because using just your first name is still an exercise in anonymity.

        3. “Good thing I’m not white.” 你刚才是不是用了种族卡?

          不管怎样,我知道的比陪审团多吗?否。Do I know how the grand jury system works? 是。你似乎无忧无虑地没有意识到,即使是一个由我们的同僚组成的大陪审团,也会受到检察官的一时兴起的影响,而检察官的工作就是左右大陪审团,决定是否提出起诉。You have no idea about the difference between a grand jury and a trial, it seems.

        4. Desr Jeff,

          你似乎对美国社会的某些方面有些困惑。

          “民主程序”指的是选举职位,为赢得这些职位而进行的竞选活动,以及允许(或不允许)此类活动的法律。

          “Due process,” “the judicial system” or “the rule of law” seems to be what you refer to.

          If we simply consider the Wilson/Brown grand jury, the evidence they heard, & how it was presented, their decision seems reasonable, but an indictment would have been reasonable too. 考虑到威尔逊在枪击事件后对证据的刑事处理,以及检察官强烈要求特别检察官的严重利益冲突,司法部的选择受到严重限制。

          最后,也许你知道澳门威尼斯人注册GJ听证会证据标准低下的一句老话:“大陪审团会起诉一个火腿三明治。”

          看来迈克尔·布朗的权利比火腿三明治还少。

    2. 首先,他没有“敲竹杠”。如果你要发表意见,就把事实弄清楚。目击者,录像带,甚至店主都说他没偷东西。人们只是选择相信这一点,这样他们就有更多的“理由”给予达伦·威尔逊可信度。

      And he didn’t choose to lock horns with the police. 他没有接近他,也没有叫警察来找他。他们自己去找他了。

      所以,他没有“选错”。

      1. 奇数。商店的视频清楚地显示,迈克尔·布朗从商店的架子上拿走了小雪茄,当店主,一个身材矮小的老人试图阻止他离开商店时,迈克尔·布朗用力推他,使他跌倒。Then Mr. Brown and his friend leave the store.

        His friend who was in the store with Michael was also the person who started the “hands up” myth. He changed his story when the autopsy reports all confirmed another scenario. 这对他自己来说有一定的风险,因为过去和现在都有真正的恐惧,即不推进“不公正的情况”将受到社区的报复。一名在大陪审团作证的年轻黑人男子在判决公布后被暗杀。他是迈克尔·布朗之死后唯一的受害者,被遗弃在街上。

        你在新闻上看过很多澳门威尼斯人注册那件事的报道吗?

    3. 你知道有哪个白人被贴上过暴徒的标签吗?What white man’s body have you EVER been told has EVER been left in the middle of the streets for HOURS after been SHOT to death? 你听说过哪个白人成为警察暴行的受害者,结果不仅因为他们的行为,而且因为警察的行为而被指责?WHAT WHITE MAN? 请告诉我。你正是媒体对黑人生活叙事的操纵的产物,媒体剥夺了我们不仅要生活,而且要和平、平等地生活的权利。So until you can answer the questions formerly presented to you, your lack of understanding and experience of that sector of life is UNWELCOMED.

      1. Many white men are and have been labeled thugs. The first American group to be referred to as thugs were white gangsters. The word is actually a derivation of “thugee,” a member of an Indian group of thieves who befriended and then assassinated their victims beginning in the 14th century and continuing into the 19th century.

        就在几年前,一名白人骑自行车的人在波士顿大学大楼前被一辆卡车撞死,他的尸体在街上躺了几个小时,直到事故调查开始。

        我的不满是,在这两种情况下,调查人员都没有设置窗帘等视觉障碍,以保护死者免受媒体和其他公众的关注。

        1. “一名白人骑自行车的人被撞死了……在事故调查进行期间,他的尸体在街上躺了几个小时。”

          This cannot justify the outrageous disrespect shown to the body of Michael Brown. Respect for human remains is a hallmark of civilized people. 如果调查人员需要知道尸体的位置,粉笔就是用来做这个的。

          Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    4. Dear Staffer,

      Michael Brown chose to go to college. He would have started in a few weeks, if he had not been killed by Darren Wilson. Would he have written excellent books? Discovered a cure for cancer? Taught & inspired countless students? Maybe that’s what America lost on Aug 9, maybe not; but we’ll never know. Michael Brown had to have made numerous sound choices to get into college at all. But no, to you he’s just another thug, so anything the police does to him must be justified.

      BTW, am I the only one who’s starting to think that “thug” is the emerging euphemism applied to African American men? Why not just say “nigger” if that’s what you mean?

  5. So disappointing to see BU authorities succumb to the mob-mentality and not stand up and capitalize on the teaching opportunity. ‘Hands-up’ linked with the Brown shooting has been dismissed as not occurring—a good story but it did not occur. Ms. Lightsey’s comments are not only misinformed but are hateful, and focus on symptoms, not the problem. The result in a further divide among people.

    As in the classroom, students have a responsibility to use critical thinking, dig deeper and challenge. For example, Ms. Lightsey’s comment of “Too many black lives have been lost from excessive police force”: how many lives relative to the number of encounters?…and is ‘excessive force’ defined as Police breaking criminal misconduct laws? Or the views of a few finding rare occurrences of police misconduct—even those unfounded as in the Ferguson case– that further their own narrative?

    We need more teachers willing to challenge students in a constructive manner. Why is the crime rate so high in communities of color? Why are African Americans under-represented in most police forces? What does the ‘rule of law’ mean in a democratic society?

    Most troubling are Lightsey’s comments regarding our society at-large: “show me what democracy looks like; this is what democracy looks like.” What does this mean? Is democracy a grand jury of Brown’s peers doing its job? Or is it people like Lightsey unwilling to do the due diligence and research/vet the facts, but rather leverage her authority over students and promote actions that do not resolve anything.

  6. 海报上的人还没有得到它。这次抗议不仅仅是针对迈克尔·布朗。毫无虚假的叙述,警方正在快速拍摄,如果你是黑人(案例太多提及结束的12岁男孩被谋杀在公园里独自玩玩具枪就在几天前),停止搜索而行走或开车的黑人比白人更经常(参见下面的数据),被结束,药物和构成,并逮捕了不成比例的监狱人口的一部分,当更多的白人交易毒品。我担心的是美国的这种不诚实。警察可能并没有打算杀死一个黑人,但是一旦有机会,他们就会表现出他们射杀黑人的速度比射杀白人的速度要快,这是事实。除此之外,美国种族主义的增加,尤其是自奥巴马总统当选以来。就好像所有的种族主义蠕虫都从冬眠中出来了。告诉我如果一个种族主义者被抓进警局手里还拿着枪怎么办?以下数据来自联邦政府:“联邦数据显示,从2010年到2012年,1217起致命的警察枪击事件显示,15至19岁的黑人被警察杀害的比率为31.17 / 100万,而该年龄段的白人男性仅为1.47 / 100万。”美国正迅速成为种族主义者的土地和懦夫的家园。太多白人对此不诚实。即使在这里的校园里,我也遇到了太多的种族主义,从教授到学生,这一点也不好笑。

    1. I can certainly agree that racism has increased since President Obama’s election. Mr. Obama and his Attorney General have increased the racial divide — that was far less deep even ten years ago– by providing platforms for men who have made careers of using African Americans. Al Sharpton, in particular, has a long and frightening history of manipulating events — and even creating them — to create a false narrative of white racism.

      I won’t get any fan mail for saying this, but the activist progressive agenda has always been to keep a large group of black people undereducated, in poverty, dependent on drugs, and “second class.” They seek no solution to problems, but to keep them alive for their own purposes.

      There is an interesting contrast with the Hispanic population, legal, illegal, citizens or not. They have never been the focus of progressive activism,because historically they were not viewed as politically “worthwhile” by progressive activists.

      1. 还是奥巴马和持有人就更倾向于法院判决指出,事件和系统性问题,带来种族不平等。比如“谢尔比县诉霍尔德案”读起来。我想说他们并不完美,可以做得更多,但霍尔德特别指出了对种族平等和隐性歧视法律的打击,而这些法律就在我们的眼皮底下。他们不是在制造分歧,而是在规定一种我们大多数人被动忽视的分歧,如果不愿意接受的话。

    2. 他没有偷东西?He did not assault the store owner? Where do you get your information? The testimony of witnesses confirmed he did steal, he did assault the store owner and he did attack the police officer.

      长大后,找另一个社会事业的潮流来加入。Why don’t you take up the plight of America’s homeless or veterans or domestic abuse victims. 别胡说八道了。

  7. The Washington Post does a good job of going through the key points of the evidence and Student is correct that the physical evidence corroborates the police officer’s story. It’s clear that Brown tried to wrestle the officer’s gun away in the first place, and generally continued to resist arrest after having committed a crime.

    Student is also correct to say that an enormous amount of media coverage seems to be of the damn-the-facts-we’re-sticking-with-our-narrative variety. 作为一个恰当的例子:在过去的两天里,我听到和看到了六个澳门威尼斯人注册这个故事的独立的广播/电视报道。Five of the six included commentary using the term “racial profiling.” 其中三份报告反复使用这个词,一份报告坚持使用。没有一位主持人明确表示,布朗案与种族定性无关。Brown had very recently committed a crime in the vicinity and the officer had probable cause to stop him.

    作为另一个例子,我们可以看看经常用来描述布朗的描述:“手无寸铁的黑人少年”,就像在这个故事中使用的短语一样:“达伦·威尔逊,枪杀迈克尔·布朗的警察,一个手无寸铁的黑人少年。”This is hardly a neutral description. 如果这篇报道被改写为“达伦·威尔逊,枪杀迈克尔·布朗的警察,一名试图从警察手中抢夺枪支的抢劫嫌疑人”呢?当然,这两种说法都是正确的,但媒体想要讲述的真相是什么呢?How matters are framed matters a great deal.

    我猜,弗格森的真实故事与警察糟糕的技术和一个年轻人的错误决定有关。Clearly, criminals should not be trying to grab police officers’ firearms; they shouldn’t be grabbing at them inside their patrol cars, and they shouldn’t be rushing them or even approaching them after having resisted arrest. Most probably better police techniques would have prevented Brown from having the opportunity to act on his foolish impulses. 布朗本不需要死,但没有证据表明,在这个案件中,分分秒秒展开的事件是由种族偏见主导的。

    The problem of police bias does need to be examined thoroughly, but this is the wrong case to use as the focal point, and Brown is the wrong figure to hold up as a martyr. It seems very unlikely that moral clarity or generalized social improvement can stem from such a spurious source, and I am making that statement without even having brought up the racial demagoguery, the professional race-inciter’s distortions, the useless and awful and self-destructive riots that further tarnish the moral standing of those who want to use this particular story to make a larger social point.

    To repeat, the issue of police bias needs a thorough examination, as does the sheer number of police shootings occurring in the USA. 很明显,非洲裔美国男孩和年轻男子比白人年轻男子更容易被枪杀。The data clearly show this to be so. What is less clear is the degree to which the large disparity is due to the enormously higher crime rate of African-American youth, the particular types of crimes under investigation, the likelihood of either race carrying a firearm in any given situation, the contexts under which police stops and investigations are conducted, etc. It seems very unlikely that all these factors are equivalent along racial lines. 这些问题需要以理性的方式解决,而不是被一种倾向于在每一个悲剧故事的背后寻找种族偏见的不满叙事所支配。

    为了说明“白人警察杀死黑人男孩”的叙述是多么不完整,以下是Pro Publica澳门威尼斯人注册“致命武力”的报告摘录:

    Who is killing all those black men and boys?

    大部分是白人警官。但在数百起案件中,黑人警官也是如此。Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. 然而,在被他们杀害的人中,78%是黑人。

    This complicating observation is not taken from Fox News but is excerpted from a Pro Publica study whose presentation of data is clearly framed in a manner sympathetic to the claim of racial bias: http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white.

    Finally, the larger story of the African-American plight remains the same: many, many more black men are killed by other black men than by policemen of either race, and they are killed in astonishing numbers. 这一事实早已为人所知。我们什么时候才能看到大学生游行抗议这种暴行?

    In the meantime, I join all those who have wished healing to the family and loved ones of Michael Brown and to the many good people who live in Ferguson.

    1. 凯蒂猫! !lolz. 我的职位在你之前。I welcome the fresh and honest perspective you bring. 我同意你说的大部分。Michael Brown might not be the best case to highlight or defend this issue. 如果美国人想要和平生活,忽视这是一个问题,而不是试图正确地分析它并提出解决方案,这是一个非常大的错误。I think it is honest straight talking like you have portrayed that will help.Some police have acted inappropriately in in a bias manner, while some of our teenagers need to respect the law. 我们不应否认双方都存在问题。对于那些否认美国警察对黑人施暴的人来说,只要问问罗德尼·金(Rodney King)就知道了。失望或认可

      If I was close to you, I would shake your hand. 我向所有有色人种的年轻人保证,在面对警察时该如何应对。让我们希望这将有助于结束这些事件。

  8. “Too many black lives have been lost from excessive police force…”. 每天都有更多的非裔美国人死于自己的人民之手。Why don’t you ‘protesters’ take the time you spend standing there with candles convincing yourselves that you are revolutionaries and go educate and mentor the people in these communities. 非裔美国人的和平与繁荣必须首先从他们自己的社区开始。更多的非洲裔美国人可能被警察杀害,但与美国其他种族相比,非洲裔美国人犯下的暴力犯罪要多得多。不需要火箭科学家就能理解,随着与警察互动的急剧增加,通常是在暴力背景下,警察枪杀的人数也会增加。与其他非洲裔美国人枪杀非洲裔美国人相比,这些警察枪杀的人数仍然微不足道。找到问题的根源。Stop the violence WITHIN African American communities if you are really concerned with ending the tragic and premature deaths of African Americans.

    1. 好的。我接受你澳门威尼斯人注册我们之间责任的观点。Are you saying that because there is a problem of black on black violence, the police should start a new from of cop on black violence? 如果不是,那就闭嘴,把他们分开。是的,黑人必须更负责任,谴责他们之间的暴力,但基于美国的种族主义历史,就像马丁·路德·金所做的那样,让我们站在山顶上,对任何种族主义引发的暴行大声疾呼。你提到的是在不同时间进行的两种不同的对话。允许人们有他们自己的谈话,多关心一点。一群人受到伤害,生活在恐惧之中。Did that dawn on you? 我想没有。You would deny individuals the right to speak against injustice. 我很乐意参加一场旨在结束黑人对黑人犯罪的抗议活动,就像我愿意参加一场针对种族定性、警察殴打和谋杀年轻黑人男子的抗议活动一样。

      1. 警察部队主要是非洲裔美国人的问题,不是吗?你有没有想过,这可能是“去他妈的警察”的心态造成的,这种心态似乎在这些低收入的非洲裔美国人社区中猖獗,这可能导致对警察的攻击和敌意?,这种攻击性和敌意中潜在的武装和law-offending公民可能导致一个合理的人类(是的,警察是人类)担心他们的生活和把枪吗?我知道在这一点上,你可能想说“去他妈的警察”的心态是警察对黑人的种族偏见所造成的侵略的结果。在我看来,这种心态实际上主要源于警察对这些人经常从事的非法活动的干预。You do not see hard-working, law-abiding African Americans generally adopting the “f*** the police” mentality and shockingly, you do not see them being shot by police (let me remind you, because you seem to have forgotten or disregarded the fact the Michael Brown had just strong-armed an innocent little shop owner and stole from him – not exactly a sweet school boy. 我不认为对警察的暴力反应对迈克尔·布朗来说是太牵强了)。考虑到。另外,也许你要澄清你抗议的是什么——我想很多人对此都有点困惑。你是说基于迈克尔·布朗事件和其他类似的罕见事件,整个学校都存在种族歧视吗?Maybe leave room for the fact that these individuals in these isolated incidents may pose a grave threat to the officers or even that officers do make very poor judgment calls sometimes that end in tragedy. 无论多么可悲和不幸,这些都是暗示整个警局存在种族暴力的非常薄弱的依据。你的意思是把你的观点缩小到威尔逊是种族主义者吗?If so, what are you protesting? 不幸的是,种族主义者存在于我们所有人之中——黑人和白人。I do wish this would change as well. 或者威尔逊应该被起诉,但大陪审团也是彻头彻尾的种族主义者,因为他是白人就释放了他?只是给你一些想法。As dangerous as racism is, so are baseless accusations and generalizations, which is arguably what racism stems from in the first place. 是时候休息一下,好好想想了——如果你愿意,我可以帮助你。

        1. 这并不是出于种族动机。Wilson acted out of fear and we have to examine where this fear happened and how this incident falls into a long list of police violence against the citizens they are supposed to protect. It wasn’t long ago that the police were actively and aggressively attacking peaceful protesters. 这是新闻,因为它对你们来说是新的,但对许多社区来说,这是政治和刑事司法系统被建立为行使当权者种族偏见的工具的又一个例子。

    2. 我把这个给你们看一下。http://www.demos.org/blog/7/29/13/myth-black-black-crime-epidemic http://www.vox.com/2014/8/25/6061449/black-on-black-crime-ferguson-murder-rate http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74546_Page2.html http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/08/11/8-stats-dispel-myths-black-violence/ http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/07/black_on_black_crime_exposing_the_myth.html

      1. As a percentage of the population, Blacks(13%) have a much higher murder rate than Whites(63%). 去年,黑人犯下了5375起杀人案,白人犯下了4396起(FBI)。

        Meanwhile in 2012, more whites were killed by police than black, 326 vs 123 respectively(CDC)

  9. 我们会为上周末在圣路易斯被四名少年暴徒殴打致死的波斯尼亚移民举行抗议吗?Beaten to death with hammers in front of his fiancee? 他为了这个逃离种族灭绝?!

    1. 如果你想为那个人抗议。那就去做吧。没有什么能阻止你。这篇文章显然不是针对这种情况。不幸的是,这样的事情在世界各地都在发生,但你的评论与当前的情况无关。

      1. 我认为这与弗格森案有直接关系。These people are agitated by alleged civil rights leaders, the Executive in Washington, and their lapdog press.

  10. 当警察面对手无寸铁的好斗者时,该怎么做?是先警告一枪,然后打腿吗?还是在不考虑其他情况的情况下连开六枪直到对方死亡?

    The answer determines whether or not the protests and the commentary is called for.

    1. 例如,威尔逊对布朗有见票即毙的命令吗?他为什么不等后援或者开着车跟踪他?Did Wilson think that Brown was heavily armed ? 布朗被杀了吗?否。So what grounds did Wilson have to take the actions he took?

      Makes less sense now white america doesn’t it?

      1. 以下是摘自警察行政澳门威尼斯人注册网站研究论坛一份名为“减少暴力升级和尽量减少使用武力的综合方法”的报告,引用洛杉矶县助理警长塞西尔·兰博的话:

        “在洛杉矶县,由于我们所谓的认知问题,我们每年发生5到15起枪击事件。These have become a bigger problem in the last five or six years. 这也被称为“手机枪击”。通常情况下,一名警官与一个人接触后,会进行短距离的追捕。在追捕过程中,这个人要么做出肯定的动作,比如扔东西的动作,要么从衣服里拿出什么东西,警官误以为是武器。The officer responds to this perceived threat by firing his weapon. 枪击发生后,我们在死者身边或身上发现了一部手机。枪击发生的情况(如“有人开枪”报警,武装抢劫报警,或“有人持枪”报警)可以为警官的心理状态提供背景。不幸的是,在过去的几年里,这些枪击事件对我们来说很常见。”

        我冒昧地说,这是许多警察部队的共同问题。What it says is that there needs to be more training among police officers to act with logic over fear and to place a greater emphasis on de-escalation. 此外,无意识的种族偏见,蓄势待发的一次枪击事件。

    2. 实际上,警察是不允许使用致命武力的,除非是为了保护他们自己的生命,或者其他任何处于迫在眉睫的严重身体伤害危险中的人的生命。在采取必要措施保护包括他们自己在内的生命之前,没有人要求他们——或者其他任何人——鸣枪示警,或者“朝腿开一枪”。

      在这起案件中,警察当时在他的巡逻车里,迈克尔·布朗在他坐着的地方袭击了他,并试图解除他的武器。无论是否持有武器,布朗都采取了伤害并杀死达伦·威尔逊的激进澳门威尼斯人注册行动。

      When, outside the car, Brown turned and charged Wilson, Wilson only had his last experience with Brown with which to assess his current intent. 那就是布朗袭击并试图解除他的武装。

      The police — black, white, or brown — are not required to give up their lives in this scenario.

      在布朗靠近他的巡洋舰之前,威尔逊立即请求支援。他没有被要求等待那些警官来为自己辩护。

      警察接受过“开枪阻止”威胁的训练。They are not trained to shoot at all unless there is an imminent threat.

      1. 警察不得使用致命武力,除非他们的生命受到威胁。在这种情况下,威尔逊在车里害怕他的武器被拿走。不幸的是,没有录像带显示实际发生了什么,但我选择支持实物证据,而不是“证人”的证词,这些证词已经被无数次证明是错误的,尤其是他的朋友,他一直说他举起双手,背后中枪。

        Also, to the user “Student”, I completely agree that this article as well as many other media outlets have been very racist and have actually been driving the rift deeper between races. 文章的这一部分进行了总结:

        “They came together to protest the November 24th grand jury decision not to indict Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, on August 9. Wilson, who is white, has since resigned from the force.”

        This is not to say that there is not tension and clearly more shootings of blacks by police. My comment here is to say that Michael Brown should by no means be the representation to stir up action against police brutality towards African Americans.

        1. As long as juries simply accept an officer’s claim that “I feared for my life,” policemens’ will use deadly force with few consequences. This allows them to literally get way with murder.

  11. 我太恶心了。首先,这篇文章是种族主义的,我会写的。Second why don’t you get your facts before just rambling on and offending others and making this a racist piece. 有多少白人被黑人杀害?There’s millions more of those, but those don’t make any news, our society racism has flipped against the white people now and no one says anything. 我能在这里建立一个黑人学生会吗?Like the black one we have? No that’s racist. I can’t believe such a piece was written and published. 你真丢脸,波士顿大学。

    1. 你可能需要纠正你的许多错别字。I just wanted to mention that from the many articles and reports I’ve read that both officer Wilson and Mr Brown were in the wrong. 即使威尔逊警官认为布朗会逃跑,他也不应该开枪超过一两次。如果嫌疑人正在逃跑,向他们开枪是违反联邦法律的。鉴于威尔逊认为布朗对公共安全构成威胁,他阻止布朗是正确的。然而,他向布朗开枪是过度的武力。人们很生气,因为威尔逊说他对杀害布朗问心无愧。即使在布朗倒地后继续射击。然后他没有报警,也没有叫救护车把尸体运走。他知道布朗还活着,但他让他躺在那里,血流了四个小时。The cruelty of that situation and Wilson not being punished at all for the numerous mistakes he made as an officer of the law is what makes people angry. 如果他对夺去一个人的生命表现出哪怕一点点的悔恨,我想愤怒就会少得多,如果他因为把那个可怜人的尸体留在街上这么长时间而受到惩罚,那么正义就会得到伸张。布朗是一个犯罪但威尔逊没有处理这种情况就像一个训练有素的官员的法律应该。这应该引起一些反响,但是没有。种族在布朗对威尔逊的仇恨和威尔逊对布朗的恐惧中发挥了作用,但也在法院的判决中发挥了作用。The systematic minor slap on the wrist that white officers get for the constant mistreatment of black Americans is what makes people angry. 此外,如果你想成立一个白人学生会,以突出美国白人或其他高加索体面的人所做的事情,你觉得你的同学低估了这些事情,那就尽你所能去做吧。这不是种族问题,而是意图问题。Hope this relieves some of the anger in your heart.

  12. Unlike Eric Garner’s case for which we have a video reference, we will never really know the exact circumstances of Mike Brown’s death. But, I have come to observe that the instinct to pull out the gun and shoot is the strongest cops (or “white cops”, if you may) have when tasked by a “situation” involving a “black” man. 查看警察射杀黑人的视频https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtx1tYc7PxI。然后再看一段视频,视频中警察在空旷的地方掏出枪指着一名“所谓的”黑人嫌疑人https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyMuLGXxTs。这里真正的问题是,一个非黑人(或者“白人”,如果你愿意的话)迈克·布朗被枪杀的可能性要比已故的黑人迈克·布朗小得多;无论情况如何。

    This is the American reality. This is why we protest.

    1. 是的,这绝对是荒谬的。Protest? There needs to be outrage — how would cops like it if there was systematic violence against them?

    1. Nope, I don’t think we can. If we do than there is clearly a race issue again. So many of these students commenting are so focused on proving why Michael Brown deserved it that they refuse to recognize the number of other situations like these that have led up to this movement and the situations that continue to follow. Why talk about a 12 year old boy who did not attempt to assault a police office and and was murdered because clearly his brown skin was a factor?

      Incredibly disappointing BU. The overwhelming ignorance in these comments in disturbing.

      1. 玛丽娜,没人该死。反对迈克·布朗的论点并不是试图表明他罪有应得,而是表明他的死与种族问题无关。此外,还有许多其他案例可以将种族作为主要问题进行辩论:塔米尔种族或埃里克加纳。But in the Mike Brown shooting, you had a young man who committed a robbery, with assault, and then proceeded to attack an officer and try to take his side arm. 这就是我不明白为什么人们会支持那种人物的地方。If anything, Mike Brown moves the debate backwards in my opinion.

        I do agree that the justice system is completely biased and the stats are completely against blacks. The best was someone put it was that there are “two Americas” and unfortunately that’s true. But, again, Mike Brown’s case was not one of race but simply one of an officer trying to defend himself and trying to go home to his family at the end of the day.

        #AllLivesMatter

        1. Actually, the convenience store owner and lawyer both said that Mike Brown is not the one who robbed the store and he is not the one in the video released for the robbery. 店主说他的雪茄是迈克·布朗付的钱。And what young black American man in their right mind would charge at an officer with A GUN when the boy is UNARMED? 这完全没有任何意义。Darren Wilson was an officer of the law; 如果他不知道如何分析情况并在不诉诸谋杀的情况下将其降级,他就根本不应该成为一名警官。

          The point that people are trying to make in their argument for Mike Brown is that, had he been a young white male, he would have lived to tell the tale, whether he robbed that store or attacked Wilson or not.

    2. 那个12岁的男孩拿着一把去掉了橙色枪口的气枪。Manufacturers of the these “toy” guns make them to be realistic because that what our society craves-realism-we see it everywhere. 警察应该问“那是玩具枪还是真枪”吗?他被告知放下武器,但他没有这么做——也许他害怕,或者只是没有想清楚,他拔出了枪,就像他要开枪一样,警察需要做出瞬间的决定——以保护自己和他人。When we as a society handcuff police and put their lives in jeopardy, more than they already are we will fail.

      悲剧——但真正的问题仍然存在……他从哪里得到这把枪?为什么要去掉橙色的尖?他怎么会把它带到公园里,挥舞着它,指着人们?

      也许你会更满意,如果他有一把“真”枪,在遇到警察之前射杀了一个无辜的人。

      1. 你是认真的吗?孩子们一直在玩从周围的人那里弄来的玩具枪。我的堂兄弟们在成长过程中经常买玩具枪,他们在公园里玩“战争”或警察和强盗。It’s a TOY. White people can freely go to restaurants and other public spaces with REAL guns but a black kid playing with a toy is automatically assumed to be… to be what? 一个崭露头角的“暴徒”?这个故事的评论区太令人不安了。

      2. 但那不是真枪。如果警察在采取澳门威尼斯人注册行动之前不能正确地分析情况或寻找杀人的替代方案,那么也许他们就不应该成为执法人员。Also cops have on numerous occasion found the ability to bring in white terrorists alive. 我希望我们的年轻人也能享有同样的特权。

      3. 一个人怎么能在2秒内把玩具枪扔在地上,尤其是当玩具枪在他的腰上的时候?既然你这么聪明,就回答吧。一个理性的人可能倾向于认为他是在试图服从。

  13. Unfortunately, the mob response to the indictment that took place in Ferguson has done more damage towards racism then the shooting itself. 通过完全无政府主义者的行为,抢劫和烧毁企业,这些抗议者所反对的观念现在已经根深蒂固,甚至更深。

    To understand where the racism comes from one must understand perceptions – because that’s what most people have to go on; 他们的感知和他们如何解释一个情况。By behaving in an illegal and uncontrollable manner there is now further cause to corroborate the perception that the police may have towards the urban black. This is no way to effect change. 奥巴马在宣布一项法案从未通过时,曾纵火焚烧一辆汽车。

    要想真正改变这个体系,或者改变这个体系中可能存在的不平等,唯一的办法就是在这个体系内努力。It’s time to stop blaming and take action by behaving in ways that you can be proud of and for which set positive examples to others.

  14. I wish it were possible for the angle at which my head is currently tilted reading these comments to be visible, alas it is not.

    I hear White Privilege spewed all over these comments. 你是如此的特权,以至于你对历史上受压迫的人们为自己和自己的权利挺身而出的想法感到冒犯?你看到黑人组织起来,这是浪费时间,因为那些没有处理过系统性不平等的人会觉得这场斗争很难理解。作为一名在波士顿大学受过教育的黑人学生,我为我们的抗议感到骄傲。我想,当一群人只占总人口的3.8%,不具威胁性时,欺负他们是很容易的;更别提这是一次和平的守夜。在我们国家,无论某人是否是“罪犯”,都不能证明我们的执法部门缺乏适当的程序。

    Since when does a toy gun or petty crime justify my death? 我想现在任何与黑人身份有关的事情都足以让人送命。

    P.S MLK Jr. is more than someone for us to advertise to students to get them to enroll here. I’m proud that this happened with the statue in his honor as the backdrop, how fitting. 愿他的遗产和教诲继续教导我们为正义而战。

    1. 马丁·路德·金会对迈克尔·布朗死后发生的事情深感悲痛:抢劫、焚烧、摧毁为社区服务的企业。弗格森骚乱正是金博士所反对的。他是一位黑人国家领导人;he would despair of the black Misleaders who defame the work he did by encouraging a racial divide that is widening not closing in our country. 阿尔·夏普顿(Al Sharpton)和杰西·杰克逊(Jesse Jackson)也被称为“牧师”,但他们的教会仅仅是为了他们自己的利益,而不是为了任何社会事业或改善任何人的命运。

      金博士是一位追求和平、有远见卓识的人;他的梦想正在实现。不幸的是,误导者试图破坏他的遗产。

      1. 说得好!而对于当代领导人,人们只需要看看白宫。在大陪审团做出裁决后的24小时内,奥巴马不止一次而是两次发表讲话,恳求弗格森理性思考,和平行事。只有讨论,而不是不和,才能把国家团结起来。

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